Mesh a Slow Painful Death

I sit here this morning my mind in a turmoil as I ask myself this question.  “What can I do to help this woman?”  The answer is “I don’t know”.  And yet, I cannot sit here and do nothing at all.  I reminded myself ‘there but for the Grace of God go I’, and yet these women are not in this position because of any God.  They are suffering because of humans.  Because of a medical profession that does not care enough to change what is happening to women around the world.  Because of money!

Last night I spent two hours on the phone with a woman in England.  A woman whose journey into hell began in 2004 with a mesh bladder sling.  A woman who is now sixty-two and wants to end her life.  She told me she has always been a fighter, but now she has nowhere to turn.  She just wants to go to sleep and never wake up again.

Sounds so simple I know and yet this woman after attending an exit of life seminar realized that the sleeping pills she has been hoarding will not do the job.  That a fast easy way out isn’t that simple.  She has prayed to have cancer to end her life and yet it doesn’t happen.   This is a statement I have heard before.  “Please give me cancer”. I was not shocked when she said this.  You see there are many women who feel this way and have stated the exact things this woman said to me last night.  “I just want to die”.  This is because their pain is so extreme.

You may think they are exaggerating.  No they are not!  These women were in good health, normal women whose bodies have been mutilated by partial sling removals that not only did not fix the problem, but made it worse.  They have gone through every penny they had trying to find a way out of the never ending pain and horror of what was done to them by placing a bladder sling into their bodies.

This woman was no different.  Without help from her own country’s National Health System to remove something they approved being put into thousands, no hundreds of thousands of women, she sought help overseas.  Drawn in by a website filled with promises of mesh removal and for her the beginning of a new life, she flew to this country, my chosen country and spent $27.000.00 only to become worse.  Complete incontinence and a life of agony.  To lose her life further into homebound abandonment.  What then you may wonder can she do?  In desperation, more money to private mesh removal in the U.K. without an end to her pain.  Where does she go now?  To an exit of life seminar to try to find out how to kill herself.

As I let this woman talk, and she did releasing all the pain and anger she felt at doctors who do not care about her and others and every day, they keep putting slings in women.  At mesh manufacturers who produce a product that is placed inside a woman’s body that they and doctors state “Is not meant to be removed”, regardless that there could be complications.  I tried in my mind how to help this woman.  The truth is there is only one man in the world who could help her and yet at this point I don’t know if even he could undo the damage that has been done to her.  Even if he could she would have to fly across the world to get to him.  Spend many thousands of dollars that she no longer has.  A woman who cannot sit and yet would have to travel sitting up in an airplane for many hours.  Even I know that this is probably impossible and yet I am still trying to figure out how to help her.

Am I stupid?  I have struggled every day for the past two years and two months to get help for myself.  However, my help is finally on the horizon.  Next month I will go to this wonderful man for my first consultation that will then allow me to have removal surgery. And yet I feel guilty because I cannot help this woman and thousands of others.

Where are the angels in this world? Why are women being abandoned like this?  I don’t have the answers and don’t know anyone who does.  I feel helpless!

Update.  For new information click here.  http://teapapers.com/bladdersling/2014/04/mesh-will-i-get-complications-in-the-future/

31 Responses to Mesh a Slow Painful Death

  1. LINDA,
    IF I CAN HELP YOU WITH THESE WOMEN, HAVE THEM CALL ME AT 772-521-7821. JUST THIS PAST WEEK I TOLD 2 WOMEN ABOUT ME THAT HAD NOT YET HAD THE BLADDER SLING PUT IN AND THEY AREN’T GAVING IT DONE.

    DIANNE IN FLORIDA

  2. What you have to understand is that if they find out who she is, this woman will be ostracized by her own health care system which is why she and many women have to remain annonomous. Her system will decide she is crazy and refused any help at all. NO! This woman is not crazy. She is in so much pain from her mutilation and does not know where to turn.

    • You said the woman has to reamin silent in her pain , After suffering for 4 years and have gone through pure hell with medical and I feel that I am dead any way, the cases seem so little to what they thought my life was.

      THIS SLOW DEATH , AND BEING TREATED SO CRUEL BY THOSE IN MEDICAL FIELD , FOR SOMETHING , THAT WAS NOT MY FAULT THAT IS KILLING ME, DEATHN SEEMS MOST WELCOME , BUT YOU KNOW HOW SOME PEOPLE SO EVIL ARE THAT GET THEIR EVIL KICKS ON PEOPLE SUFFERING,

      AFTER 4 YEARS AND NEEDING MEDICAINE AND BEING DENIED AND HAVING 1 SURGERY TRYING TO REMOVE AND FEELING INSIDE WHAT THE SORRY DAMN DOCTORS DID TO ME ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO, A MERCY SHOT , IS BETTER THAN SLOW DEATH. TYAKE THE DAMN EVIL MONEY THAT THE RICH AND EVIL ARE GOING TO GET ANY WAY, AND SHOVE IT UP THEIR EVIL COURTS ASS,

      MY PAIN AND SUFFERING AND TO WARN WOMEN NOT TO BE THE GUINEA PIG FOR FDA AND MEDICAL RESEARCH, AND BE BUTCHERED , UNTIL THEY HAVE MURDERED YOU, NOT THE WAY ANYONE WANTS TO DIE FOR SURE, .

      SILENT , GO TO HELL THAT IS LIKE TELLING SOMEONE THEY CANNOT TELL WHO A DAMN PEDOPHILE IS MOLESTING AND RAPING A KID, TO GAG TRUTH ANDF TELL WOMEN TO KEEP QUITE WHILE OTHERS MIGHT SUFFER, BETTER TO SPEAK OUT , THAN HAVE ANOTHER WOMEN BUTCHERED AS AN ANIMAL AND GUINEA PIG FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH AND THOSE EVIL, THAT MADE THE MESH, AND WHAT EVER THEY HAVE PUT IN THAT DAMN MESH CAUSING DEATH AND SLOW TO WOMEN, DONE BY GREEDY GUTTED EVIL PEOPLE FOR MONEY AND OF MEDICAL AND DAMN COURTS.

      THIS IS MURDER , NOT A MISTAKE , OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT BOUGHT OFF DAMN DOCTORS AND FDA , AND FOR DAMN GREEDY BLOODY EVIL

  3. Hello, my name is not my true one but it requires one to reply. I too have had serious issues due to a PoP surgery and a tvt mesh sling insertion. This was all started on the 7th of june 2012 and now is only the 9th of july. You see my mother had the same surgery as me on april the 16th and the only issues she had was some what of a lot of pain and a longer then usual recovery due to stress over her father being on his death bed in germany. We live in VA and I uses the same dr as her because she praised his helpfulness and kindness towards her. I am not use to doctors who actually care and thought I had to go to him myself. This has been a big mistake. I am 31 years old have had numorous issues with my vaginal parts and rectul parts for years including urinary issues, inncontanances, miscargages, a allergic reaction to depovera shots at age 16, and one pregnancy that was hell and heaven all at the same time giving me my one and only child who is now 3 years old. I wish to add my story in hopes of answers and help with my emotional ordeals caused by this surgery I had on 6/7/12. I am not asking for financial help but just for someone to listen and talk to. I just became aware of your site a few minutes ago by the grace of God. After the pop surgery and sling insertion, I immediatly was in horrible pain at the hospital and had to stay an extra day because I failed the first bladder challange and could not pee. They kept me an extra day from a supposed outpatient 23 hour surgical stay. The following day my dr came to finally tell me about what happened during surgery. He claimed. I had little issues and only some extra bleeding and a few breathing problems where they had to not only use the breather down the throat but an inhaler as well during the surgery. He said all went well and my recovery and pain should be fast due to my young age and my good health. That was a lie or he was mistaken. The second day at my hospital stay a new nurse did the bladder challange again but instead of using the 250 or 300 ml of fluid inserted into the bladder thru my cathitor she used about 600 ml of it and removed my cathitor and helped me to the toilet where a tiny bucket was placed in it to collect my urine and check how much came out. It was excrutiatingly painful and took 25 minutes to release a small amount of fliud which because so much was added had to come out not by my doing but on its own. It hurt so badly and felt allmost like a kiddney stone or a baby was comming out of my urithra. A second nurse then entered the room looked at the 100 ml of fluid and said awesome you went to the bathroom and can now go home to start your recovery. I was told it would be a week of pain and discomfort given 60 5/325 percocets and sent home on a Saturday afternoon around 1pm. I immediatly started to have very bad pains in my back, legs, abdomin, chest, vagina, and rectum. I had to sit on the toilet for 45 minutes to an hour and a half every hour or two to try and pee that day. It was so painful I would cry out and moan the entire time sitting there and mostly nothing but 1 drop of urine came out. I explained it to my mother who assumed I was peeing some which she said was suppose to happen and that she also had pain when she first came home and urinated. The next day (Sunday) was worse and it took me 2 hours of terrible terrible pain to try and pee and the most that came out was one time 3 drops litterly. My entire abdomin hurt so bad and so did everything else. I tried to explain to my mom that I was not urinating only in pain and again she claimed it happened to her and would get better over time. That night was the worst.I slept not but an hour the entire night and spent most of it crying on the potty while attempting to pee which I could not at all. Monday I called my doctor against the advise of my mother and was told to immediatly come in for a 2:30 appointment. The nurse has and is very friendly but said my dr was in surgery and would probably be a while but she needed a urine sample. I informed her that she better let me go now because it would take me a very long time and that it probably would not be enough for her to do whatever test it was she was doing ( which I never found out what the test was or the results). Of course it took me an hour of crying and pain to get her 3 or 4 drops of urine in the cup and so she finally believed. I had issues and said she would use a tiny cathitor to relieve the pressure and drain my bladder. The result was that my bladder over the course of two days was filled to the pint of exploding with over 850 ml of urine. They told me if I had not come in my bladder would have exploded causing serious internal issues or death. He then placed a cathitor in me saying my bladder just needed a rest because it eas in shoke and that the hospital should never have sent me home. He gave me marcrobid for a UTI infection he said I had and told me to come back for another bladder challange in 3 days. That bladder challange I failed also and the UTI never went away and turned into what he said was a vaginal infection but I know was both that and a ssi infection as well. I was given more pain pills which he could not explain why or where all my pain came from and never even gave me any tests of any kind other then the bladder one. I wrote dow2n all my questions and that was the week I found out about the FDA warnings and all the risks and complications associatted with mesh implants. He assured me the only mesh implants that cause issues are the ones used ikn rectul pop fixes and that the sling mesh was 100% safe. That was a lie. I was given more pain pills along with uribel bacloracth and tindamax a antibiotic for vaginal infections and told to return the next Thursday and assueed then that my bladder would function and my pain would go away. He also assured me once I made a bowl movement which I had not yet that pain wouldbe gone also but that was wrong also. The following appointment I failed the test again no test for infection was givin but I was told I still had a infection in my bladder but had to see a different dr since mine was on vacation. I have had no urge what so ever to urinate and it just hurts like hell from the bachloret that makes my bladder spasm. The new dr stuck the cathitor in too deep and it caused me even more pain everywhere for a week along with discharge and just plain stinking. I get sever cold and hot sweets and chills and am sometimes both at once. I can not sleep due to pain and have no energy for more then 5 minutes at a time. I can no longer eat because I get sick and dizzy and sitting standing and laying down cause me great pain that pills don’t cure. On july 2nd he did a second surgery saying it was to revise the sling so that it would not be so tight which would allow me to go on my own but before I had surgery stiching came loose and for four days I had diharea comming out of my vagina instead of my rectum. Once he did the surgery he told me all would be well now that he did fix a rectul tear and cute the sling a tiny bit. I still can not go to the bathroom and am still wearing a cathitor. I still have excrutiating pains everywhere and after 5 diffrent anitbotics have yet to cure any of the infections I now have which have only been tested 2 times. He says he will do a sling removal this Friday another surgery. I asked isn’t the mesh permanant and hard to remove and he said yes but that he could do it and after I should be able to urinate and have no more pain. This I do not believe I have infectkions that are uncurable pain that doesn’t go away and stiches that come apart and now a sling mesh permanant implant that will probably only be partly removed and been told skin graphts where used for the prolapse but I am certain mesh was used in that too. I do not iknow what to do any more. Every day I get worse and every surgery makes me sicker and sicker.

    • Another horror story of a very young woman is hear and I am grateful for her writing this and yet terribly scared for her. This is why this sugery should never be done. I cannot take away her pain. I cannot give her her life back. I became angry just by reading this. My God, when will this stop! Please pray for her and all the terribly injured women in this world.

      • Every time I think my story is a horror story, all I have to do is read a story like this and sadly I am grateful for the problems I had as they were so much less severe than this poor woman. 31 is too young to have your life torn away from you for what is considered ” elective surgery”. I will keep you in my prayers dear one…please get to Dr Raz and get help. God bless you!

  4. My heart breaks to hear this story and I live in fear that this can or will be me. My surgery was on June 19th and i had a Monarc urethral sling. I am peeing fine on my own and healing well (I think). I also had a partial hysterectomy done at the same time with the Da Vinci Robot. The same doctor performed both. I am 3 wks postop and my main complaint is achey calves and feet and groin. I am concerned about why my feet and calves ache. I am getting around well and all else seems good.

    I wish you luck and a full recovery! No one should have to go through this…

  5. Watch that groin ache. Mine started out small and 6 months leg pain had grown so much my leg gave way and I fell, fracturing 2 bones in my wrist.

  6. What do you mean your leg grew so much?

    • Sorry, I meant leg pain grew and I just changed it. It started out very small and barely noticable, but kept increasing. At first I thought it was because I had not walked much after surgery, but when I did walk it increased. Over six months it began to be more than annoying and was keeping me awake at night. I knew then it was not going to go away and something was definately wrong.

  7. I suppose you are lucky so far and I hope and pray nothing goes wrong for you. My mother had the same surgery as I only hers was april 16th. She claims to just have had one uti infection which went away on its own and only some pain which after 5 weeks was better and now only has a few back issues of pain which she had before. You are lucky so far and possibly it won’t happen to you since apperantly some women have no issues with it but most do. I have no idea how my life will be from now on but only 6 weeks into this surgery I allready have had way too many horrific problems that it scares me each day to even wake up afraid I will be worse or may not wake at all when my tiny angel crawls into his mommies bed in the morning when he wakes to watch our tv show before he is gotten ready by my mother and taken to daycare because I can no longer do it or drive any cars. It hurts everywere and yes leg pains and back pains come with it too along with no bladder function other then the horrible medicine I was given that makes my bladder spasm to the point it feels like contractions only worse. These have tended to knock me to my butt if I do not hold on to something if I am standing. Yesterday I was going to post here and say hello and thank those for their prayers because I can not seem to ask God for too much for myself. See I have asked him over my 31 years to help me way too much through all the trouble I have brought apoun myself and now would rather pray for others. So thank you for the prayers. Yet I could not finish my post and this is gross but I had an urge to go poo and before I made it to the bathroom it exploded horribly all over myself. This has happened many times before but never so much that when I pulled my undies down so much poo was in them it got all over the bathroom and my cathitor and took an hour to clean up. See it takes me 30 to 60 minutesz to do anything that would take a normal person only 5. Life is horrible my depression issues I allready have had are worse and my anxiety and panic attacks swell to hell but I can not give up because my son needs me we are all each other has and if I have to live like this the rest of my life I will find a way to survive it for him. It is good to hear other stories and my mother thinks I am nuts to speak and search for answers for these mesh issues because she doesn’t understand nor does she want to. I wish you all luck and hope to be back after the 13th but I allready know this 3rd surgery will make me worse then ever because each that I have had hazs made me sicker and there is no way this dr will be Ble to remove the entire sling just like that. He lies and there is no majic wand or wizards stick that people in this world can wave to make everything go back to normal. I wish it was so but it is not and I will never be the same as I was before the 7th of june. I am 31 and live the life of a crippled disabled 200 year old women and I see only more suffering to come. Good luck and keep an eye on that pain.

    • Hello ladies, I am sitting in the or waitting room because my taxi arrived way too early. I thought about all of you and figured perhaps an update and maybe just to vent because right now I am scared and in very much pain seeing you can not take anything the day of surgery. I just asked the waitting room nurse what my dr had written down for the procedure he was doing and if it was written as a partial removal or a full removale of the sling. Sorry for my spelling but I have allways been bad at it. Well she came back to me and asked what I ment by partial or full removal….haha it doesn’t even say on the chart that he is romoving shit it says a lower and higher abdomanal revisit and correction or something like that. She even said she had no idea what that ment or what kind of procedure it was other then he will be making a higher abdomanal incession and lower vaginal incessions to do some kind of fixing of something in me. Ok that pisses me off because twice now he said he was doing one thing and ends up doing something else. I can not wait to be wheeled into the opperation areas so I can see him and very politly since my life will be in his hands today and ask those questions that linda so kindly left for us to ask before sling removal. Unfortunatly I have no other choice but to attempt this surgery today but I am terrified. Everything so far I have been told was either a lie a cover up or did not happen like he promised it would. I have not much hope for this surgery either since in his own words he should most likely be able to remove my entire sling but that it will be diffecult take time and be an extensive surgery today with no time given on how long it will be or anything about the recovery time or pain. Every surgery I have had and this being the third has only caused me more problems and more pain and now I can hardly eat because most food makes me sick. What if he thinks he fixed something and instead messes me up more and I end up in even more pain and discomfort? I feel wires inside my vagina where the sutures are suppose to be and instead of it closed as he said its healing nicely I can stick my fingers in them and thru them and feel all kinds of chicken wire threaded thru these sutures that are supposedly healing but instead are opening up further and further. My pain meds I can not live without because I am in so much pain and deathly afraid of that day when he decides not to perscrib me anymore. I don’t know what surgery he wrote down or what the hell is going on now. Just please wish me luck that he does not kill or cripple or hurt my utteros any. I love you ladies and thank you so much for your calls unfortunatly the emails did not go thru yet. I hope all of you have a good day and I will post later.

      • I am sad to say, as I read your story here, I am reminded of so many just like yours. Lives cut short by a surgery that should not happen. I am of course afraid for you because once these slings are in, they are not designed to be removed. What has been done to you and so many others is terrible. It should never happen. I know this doctor has no clue what to do and he is ‘trying’ to do something and yet everything he does is worse for you. I know you don’t have money or insurance and you are at his mercy. I know how you feel because I have been there. I hope he gets it right this time and yet I have absolutely no confidence he will. What you have done by writing here is to warn other women who come here before surgery, “do not have a sling implant”. There are far more complications than are spoken of. I know because I read them every day. No one should be in this much pain, relying on a doctor to do something to fix it, and yet manufacturers say themselves, there is no fixing it. Be warned and pray for this young woman.

      • Thank you for the update and am praying for you this morning as you undergo surgery. I am so sorry for all you are going through!

  8. nadial
    I do not know what state or country you are in but many of us here can recommend a uro gyn who knows how to repair this from Dr Raz in California to my own Dr Hampton in Rhode Island. There are MD’s who are honest and can help you. Many thoughts and prayers to you today,

  9. I am praying for you! I am curious though…have you tried going to another more experienced doctor for a second opinion? My God Bless you today!

  10. Thank you ladies and lavanda is write he has experience putting them in but I am only the 16th removal he has done in his entire correer whih means my new friend who called me and we. Spoke for 80 minutes was correct and so are most of you. I have or have not had hope in this surgery but I do it because vi must! It has to be given a try even though this time I am not entering it blind as the first time. All I know is every surgery he does never comes out the way he says it will and once home I become more and more ill with more and tons more unexplained pain sweets that come with hot or co9ld les and less energy and can no longer suffer myself to eat more the grits or plain butter bread ost days.I have yet for him to tell me how it went which is discuraging me b/c he usually comes by 7am.sigh I am afraid but so very happy to have women friends who know What’s going on can give me answers and most of all what I need emotional support. I love you all please read my other posts this am and once I find out from dr nice but stupid I will inform you all. And your right the best gift I can give to anyof you is my continuing story and my prayers love and friendship. Ttyl from 31 year old mommy of a angel boy whose 3 from heaven and I have read this in allmost all the stories breaking my heart because when the pain and sickness gets bad enough I too just wish I could die but he saves me with his big brown eyes and his hugs and smiles. All I can say is I am herefor any of you if I am not too sick and love you all.

  11. Dear Nadine, I am a nurse who has battled mesh problems. My heart is breaking for you. I wish I could change things for you and everyone. This is a horrible thing that has happened to all of us. My then 6 year old is what kept me going when I thought I could no longer go on so I understand how your little boy is helping you too. Please stay strong for him- he needs his mommy- better to have you not well than not at all. Hang in there. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs…

  12. I had the pelvic mesh put in six years ago. Since then I have had two surgeries to loosen the mesh arms, One two days later. then four days later, Then again last year,
    Last year I was told the Doctor was 98 percent sure it could not be loosened .
    I have not been able to sit in Six years.
    I went to a large Hospital type clinic and saw a female doctor that said it could be.
    I have not had the surgery yet, due to have it on sept 10.2012.
    I’m up to having arm loosened but not the mesh removed,
    I live in horrible pain and can’t sit, I stand all the timeAnyone have any ideas?

    • Hi, I don’t know what you have been told over this past six years or by whom, but none of this makes any sense. You cannot ‘loosen’ the arms. I think they may have tried to stretch the mesh which you should know is against what any manufacturer says should be done. Think of it this way. If you take a piece of mesh, then stretch it, the sides will curl inwards and the edges of the mesh will poke all your organs and bladder. Mesh is a harsh material and over time it shrinks, causing more harm. It sounds to me that your surgeon has already damaged the pudendal nerve. This has happened to thousands of women when surgery is done by inexperienced doctors. Then they leave you to it and keep doing more stupid tests and non helpful surgeries. I am so sick and angry about hearing what is happening to American women. If ANYONE reads this and STILL goes through with bladder sling surgery, that person is a fool. They say suffering should not be in vain and yet ours seems to be. If you have insurance or Medicare, go to Dr Raz at UCLA. Another woman just like you made the trip from Oklahoma to California in a van with a bed so she could lay all the way. She has been suffering eleven years. Every day in my email comes more of these stories and I wonder if it will EVER stop. I am sorry this has happened to you.

  13. I am going to see Dr. Raz for the first time in October. I have two different mesh implants.
    I am curious what sort of tests he runs to map where the mesh is and how badly it is eroding. One of mine is obviously eroding into my vagina–since I can feel the sharp edges with my fingers. The other one? I know they can’t been seen on a vaginal ultrasound. So what works?
    Although I am on Medicare with a good supplement, I wonder what the cost for the first exam is.

    • If you do not have insurance, the cost is set by UCLA and is around $500 to $700.00 for just the consultation. I have been told fees are negotional, but I do not know anyone who has tried. With Medicare and a good suppliment it will cost you very little. I have not received any bill for the consult. No tests are performed until the next visit the day before surgery. The most important is the translabial ultrasound, which is how he can tell where the mesh is. Few doctors use this and even if they do they have to be able to read it.

  14. Hi I had a sling put in on August 26,2008 about 2 years ago I started noticing that every time my bladder gets full my feet and legs hurt really bad, as soon as I urinate the pain goes away . It has gotten more painful I wanted to no was any one else experiencing that and do you think it’s due to the sling I haven’t told my Dr about it yet but I have an appointment with her in November .

    • By what every woman has told me, it is more than likely due to the sling. You sound like you are like so many of us. Your bladder does not empty. I just had FULL mesh removal, meaning all mesh arms/anchors at UCLA and found out the reason I never emptied was it was cutting into my urethra causing an obstruction. Then the infections begin. Please read this blog so that you can help yourself with controling the infections until you get it ALL out. Don’t do partial removals. You will never get well and it will mean a series of surgeries. You will see on the left side links all about my trip to UCLA and mesh removal. I hope this helps. http://teapapers.com/bladdersling/2012/05/bladder-slings-uti-infections/

  15. Any updates from

    • The hardest part for me is to hear women say “I no longer have insurance”. “I lost my job because of this”. I often feel like I am beating my head against a brick wall because no one is listening but the injured women.

  16. I know I will not live another year , for these cases to come to trial. there is no way, and I KNOW IT. BUT TO TELL WOMEN THAT CANNOT SPEAK OUT AFTER BEING MURDERED , AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE BEING, SLOW DEATH MURDER.

    THAT IS A GRAVE WRONG, FOR THIS COUNTRY TO EVEMN DARE TO TELL A WOMAN SHE CANNOT TELL OF WHAT THE MESH DOES , AND DESTROYS HER LIFE AND PAIN AND SUFFERING , AS i HAVE NEVER KNOWN SO WEAK, THAT WHAT DAMN EVIL MONETY CAN BUY, THE WOMEN SHOULD GET LOUDER AT WHAT ALL THE HELL THOSE IN POWER HAVE DONE TO HER.

  17. tAny judge or court that says a woman after suffering for years as the women have with this bladder mesh, should stay silent and nt speak out, that judge and anyone that says it needs to be hung,

    you do not muzzle a ox in pain, why gag a woman in pain and suffering from what evil in medical research has done to her,

    tell the sob to go to hell, if my cussing offends anyone, I AM MORE OFFENDED AT EVIL THAT TRY TO ACT ANGELIC AFTER THEY HAVE DONE THIS EVIL TO WOMEN.

    • I have read your posting Angry…please please find a way to get the help you need. Channel that anger to help yourself! Don’t remain the victim…then they win! Don’t let the SOBs win! Reach out to Linda or myself if you need help with the steps to get help…it is out there. I will keep you in my prayers and send you love and healing energy. Please reach out and get the help!

  18. Thanks you all so much for you opinions. My doctor suggested this sling for stress incontinece. I was horrified at the idea & after researching this I do not think Im going to make that surgery. Advice please! I am a 25 year old mother of three!

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